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If the Ultrabase Series 3 still work on X330?

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If the Ultrabase Series 3 still work on X330?

#1 Post by easports1200 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:59 am

I brought a X330 serveral days ago
The moder moded the screen with a.gain's kit,hijacking the dock dp#2
If the Ultrabase Series 3 work well on X330,I will buy a used one for the ultrabay
Does anyone know?

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Re: If the Ultrabase Series 3 still work on X330?

#2 Post by dr_st » Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:40 pm

According to the first post in nitrocaster's original mod thread, the Ultrabase does not use Dock DP#2, only DP#1, so it should work without issues. However, other users reported they still needed to tape the DP#2 pins on the docking connector, so I don't know.
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Re: If the Ultrabase Series 3 still work on X330?

#3 Post by Bionicman » Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:36 pm

Mine X330 switches off screen when put in docking station Ultrabase 3.
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Re: If the Ultrabase Series 3 still work on X330?

#4 Post by easports1200 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:24 pm

dr_st wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:40 pm
According to the first post in nitrocaster's original mod thread, the Ultrabase does not use Dock DP#2, only DP#1, so it should work without issues. However, other users reported they still needed to tape the DP#2 pins on the docking connector, so I don't know.
thank you mate,very uesful

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Re: If the Ultrabase Series 3 still work on X330?

#5 Post by dr_st » Sat Jul 16, 2022 1:53 am

Bionicman wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:36 pm
Mine X330 switches off screen when put in docking station Ultrabase 3.
But can you switch it back on manually - that is the question. And can you get both internal and external screen work at the same time?
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Re: If the Ultrabase Series 3 still work on X330?

#6 Post by Bionicman » Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:39 am

dr_st wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 1:53 am
Bionicman wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:36 pm
Mine X330 switches off screen when put in docking station Ultrabase 3.
But can you switch it back on manually - that is the question. And can you get both internal and external screen work at the same time?
I managed to get the screen work while on the dock station. This topic explained the taping: viewtopic.php?f=43&t=122640&p=808731#p808731
here is the picture:
https://imgur.com/XjGmbz3

However the success is limited. After the first screen idle shutoff I couldn't manage to switch it on by itself. Had to use external VGA screen to access fn + f7, then I could setup both screens to show.
However sometimes I can't switch on the inner screen. The OS is Fedora
T420 -> W500 -> T601 Frankenpad -> X200s -> X330 -> modded T420

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Re: If the Ultrabase Series 3 still work on X330?

#7 Post by Bionicman » Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:17 am

Bionicman wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:39 am
dr_st wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 1:53 am
But can you switch it back on manually - that is the question. And can you get both internal and external screen work at the same time?
I managed to get the screen work while on the dock station. This topic explained the taping: viewtopic.php?f=43&t=122640&p=808731#p808731
here is the picture:
https://imgur.com/XjGmbz3

However the success is limited. After the first screen idle shutoff I couldn't manage to switch it on by itself. Had to use external VGA screen to access fn + f7, then I could setup both screens to show.
However sometimes I can't switch on the inner screen. The OS is Fedora
Quick update -> while connected to an external VGA screen connected to the docking station , both screens work ok. After idle timer switches off screens there was no problem waking up both laptop and external screens.
It's quite strange that I could wake the screen this time even without the external screen.
I haven't tested the rest of the I/O from the docking.
T420 -> W500 -> T601 Frankenpad -> X200s -> X330 -> modded T420

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Re: If the Ultrabase Series 3 still work on X330?

#8 Post by TPFanatic » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:09 pm

I just tried Ultrabase with X330 and the LCD still lights but software backlight control with Fn-key fails pending reboot. I would guess that the software backlight control uses a USB device connected to an Ultrabase USB which on docking overrides the backlight control device.

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Re: If the Ultrabase Series 3 still work on X330?

#9 Post by Bionicman » Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:05 am

TPFanatic wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:09 pm
I just tried Ultrabase with X330 and the LCD still lights but software backlight control with Fn-key fails pending reboot. I would guess that the software backlight control uses a USB device connected to an Ultrabase USB which on docking overrides the backlight control device.
Did you tape the pins on the Ultrabay as mentioned above ?
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Re: If the Ultrabase Series 3 still work on X330?

#10 Post by TPFanatic » Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:53 am

just chiming in to update that taping the pins permits the machine to work properly as far as the internal display goes. However as I suspected those pins don't cover whatever dock USB port is re-used for the X330 kit's USB brightness controller, it gets overridden and Fn brightness control is lost. But the power button still works.

HWINFO reveals the USB brightness controller manufactured by AGAN as being connected to Port 3 (of Ports 1 through 8 ) of the Intel(R) USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller -1.0 (Microsoft).

This entry disappears when the machine is docked.

So if I can find which pins on the ultrabase correspond to Port 3 and tape them off too, i hope everything will be good but can one really know?

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